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Message started by Captain_Cogle on 05/29/09 at 16:49:20

Title: Songs of the Jacobite Risings
Post by Captain_Cogle on 05/29/09 at 16:49:20
Has any one gotten and listened to the CD "The King Has Landed. Songs of the Jacobite Risings."?
Its really excellent. I strongly recommend it though its hard to find. I ordered it 4 times from 4 different sellers and they all had to refund my money as they could not find it in their stock. The last seller finally found me a copy after 3 months of waiting. But I must say it is worth it.

Title: Re: Songs of the Jacobite Risings
Post by Vicar Wm Gray Beard Abernethy on 05/31/09 at 07:37:57
I found several new and used on Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006C2LB/sr=1-1/qid=1243769365/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1243769365&sr=1-1&seller=#moreAboutThisProduct)
Having listened to this CD, can you tell me before I purchase it what about it would be beneficial for a fellow Jacobite '45 Rising re-enactor to own?  Are the songs all period-correct for the Rising?  Something we could sing in camp, our clans could sing as they march off to battle?

Title: Re: Songs of the Jacobite Risings
Post by Captain_Cogle on 05/31/09 at 19:56:06
Most certainly! It does have a number of songs that are post Jacobite and some Robert Burns songs such as the ever common "Ye Jacobites By Name" but there are others that would be both historically accurate and would greatly improve your impression by knowing.

Remember people in this period did not have TV's or other devices of such entertainment. They sang, played games and such. Tone deaf or not its likely you knew practically any popular song of the period and region by heart. Singing was a grand past time and was uplifting to spirits. Especially to cold, hungry, homesick and frustrated soldiers of the Jacobite rising of 45.

"The Haughs O'Comdale" is a correct and common song by this period.

"The White Cockade" is a disputable song from the period. Some say Robert Burns others say it was a common and ancient tune that Burns wrote his own words to.

"Johnnie Cope" is an ever popular and period correct song if you are doing the later part of the 45 rising.

"Wha'll be King But Charlie?" is a tune also to remember. The tune being an ancient one but the words its self having been written by two separate people in the post Jacobite era.

A thing to remember is that many tunes did not have words and even those that did would often find themselves changed. Virtually every tune could be taken and your own words substituted.
This is a common practice of the period! Writing your own tunes with lyrics would be equally as common. So if you find yourself bored at some time sit and write your self a parody about King George and sing it!

I am uncertain of the truth in this but from what I have read Robert Burns was highly dyslexic and could neither read nor write. He had others record his songs for him.
So if he could do it off the cuff then so can you!

... Yeesh sorry for the long post.

Title: Re: Songs of the Jacobite Risings
Post by Vicar Wm Gray Beard Abernethy on 06/01/09 at 10:07:36
Captain Cogle,

I have ordered the CD through Amazon.com and will let you know when it arrives and how I like it when it does.  Thanks for the tip!

If what I have read about Burns is accurate, his greatest gift was recognizing great poetry and song lyrics written by others and attaching his name and perhaps some minor modifications to them, neither a crime nor frowned upon in his day.  

YMH&OS,
Vicar Wm. "Gray Beard" Abernethy

Title: Re: Songs of the Jacobite Risings
Post by Captain_Cogle on 06/01/09 at 11:55:03
Grand!

I do believe and hope you will enjoy it! It does have some of the easy to find standard Corries recordings but others are new to me and this was well worth the wait and money.

By the by my name is Hunter Cogle, please call me Hunter. I never thought to simply making my screen name my full name, Im accustomed to creating fake or semi fake names.

Title: Re: Songs of the Jacobite Risings
Post by Vicar Wm Gray Beard Abernethy on 06/01/09 at 12:19:42
Hunter,

Will do.  

And by the way, the supplier (Caiman.com) I purchased the CD from through Amazon.com said the expected delivery date was tomorrow, so they must have it in good quantity.

And my name is Bill Jeffery for our now less formal and guarded communications, so please call me Bill, even though I am easily old enough to be your father!

Title: Re: Songs of the Jacobite Risings
Post by Captain_Cogle on 06/01/09 at 12:50:25
Your luckier than I am in your ordering then Bill! I must be bloody awful with my searches. I searched every where including Amazon for that CD and continued time after time to find it listed as "Not in stock."

In addition things come rather slow to me due to my remote location.

And as for age I havent  a single friend my own age. My best friend is old enough to be my father and two of my groomsmen at my wedding were old enough to be my grandfather.
As for the real father and grandfather they are no longer living.

Having grown up a cattle rancher and caring for my father untill he passed matured me a little early.
I have little desire for the company of those my own age. Pot, TV, cars and video games hold no interest for me.

I look forward to hearing your review!

Title: Re: Songs of the Jacobite Risings
Post by Vicar Wm Gray Beard Abernethy on 06/01/09 at 17:35:56
Hunter,

Timing is everything, my young friend--when I searched it on Amazon.com they showed 7 new and 5 used!

And us old codgers can make pretty good friends if you can find one that hasn't soured with age.  Usually life gradually teaches us how to be better, more reliable, and wiser friends, though that is not necessarily or always the case--hey, I heard that!

My own Dad passed 9 years ago and left a really big hole in my life.  He was my deer and turkey hunting buddy, mentor, and best friend.

Pot, TV, and video games hold no attraction for me either, but cars, especially muscle cars or fine sports cars, now that's another story.  In fact, other than the Barrett-Jackson Auction, Motor Week, Supercars Exposed, Pass Time, and Pinks, there's not much on TV I care to watch.

Title: Re: Songs of the Jacobite Risings
Post by Daniel Foster on 06/01/09 at 19:27:46

Vicar Wm Gray Beard Abernethy wrote on 06/01/09 at 17:35:56:
Pot, TV, and video games hold no attraction for me either, but cars, especially muscle cars or fine sports cars, now that's another story.  In fact, other than the Barrett-Jackson Auction, Motor Week, Supercars Exposed, Pass Time, and Pinks, there's not much on TV I care to watch.



Knew there was something I liked about you, Bill!    :D

Title: Re: Songs of the Jacobite Risings
Post by Captain_Cogle on 06/01/09 at 23:14:36
I havent been hunting since my father died. Left quite the whole in the lives of all in my family. Been about 7 or 8 years now I think...  Sorry Im off topic! Final post that will be so out in left field! Apologies!

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