Back in 1977 I participated in what may well have been the 1st Jacobite event in the country, at the Ellerbe Springs Highland Games in N.C.. This was right in the middle of the bicentennial and for whatever reason this never quite caught on down that way. I had hoped that This wasn't the end, and thank heavens it isn't. At least one other vet of the above event, and myself, are trying to pull together a group out of the N.C.-Md. area now.
     Now for a question or two. I just unpacked my Jacobite library and noticed some mention in one book that highland garb was more or less the "uniform" of the whole army. I take it to mean that this included lowlanders too? Were some of the recruits out of Edinburgh issued items we would normally associate with highland troops.Would they be more likely to wear breeches or trews [I take it that this reference is more to tartan cloth]. Would the trews have a flap or button fly? Does anyone have any sources on diced or tartan hose? The group we are thinking of doing is the Duke of Perth's Regt..

Y.H. &. O.S.

Ted Yeatman

Would they be more likely to have the flap front or button fly on the kneebreeches? There were some folks who were not sure about wearing the kilt, but who were interested in doing Jacobite, so we thought this might be the answer.

Best,

Ted Yeatman

The fly-front breeches were in common use at mid-century, the drop-front came in later.

Caveat: The mid-century waistcoats are quite long, so it's quite possible that the fly might be covered entirely by the front of the waistcoat...in that instance, only really close friends will know which you're wearing  

I think I may have just discovered the lowland equivalent of "what's worn under the kilt?" Heh.

Modified to add: BTW, are you talking about James MacGregor as is Rob Roy's eldest son? A Glengyle?     We may have the makings of a good intra-clan battle here   

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Hi,
   You can continue to portray the Duke as far as I'm concerned, and as far as the group goes, welcome to do that too, or a part of it. We're still organizing. The fellow who was doing this out of NC is originally from Ohio, and lives now[actually since at least the 70's] in Rockingham, near the SC line. I could put you two in touch.
    I'm going to have to check an order of battle, but I believe there was actually someone else who was in field command of the regt., at least at Prestonpans, though Rob Roy's son was second in command there. I wasn't aware of the MacGregor connection until after we started  started kicking this around, but it sounds kind of ironically fitting, as I've written a book, which just came out in trade paper, FRANK AND JESSE JAMES: THE STORY BEHIND THE LEGEND. I'm slated for a HISTORY CHANNEL  documentary, to air early next year, which was filmed in May out in Mo.. Guess what; the famous story of Jesse James and the widow was borrowed from a story about Rob Roy! 
      One other question about the "plaid" mentioned above. What are the demensions?

Y.H.&.O.S.

Ted Yeatman

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Ew, ew, ew....

Duncan is going to be VERY upset about this development      <sigh> and we ALL know how darned <ahem> petulant Duncan gets when he's upset.         

I shall away and plan dissent and discord in the ranks of Glancarnoch. I finally have something to do!!   

new here...thanks for that link...good to see my Grants we there lending a blade or two to the fray!

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I've used this pattern a few times...make sure you read the instructions carefully FIRST, because the instructions for setting the pockets (right at the beginning) can be rather confusing. Also, you may find that this takes some tailoring and adjustments to make the waistband and fly sections lie properly (especially if you have any belly to deal with). My advice is to trace the pattern out on poster paper and cut THAT instead of the pattern paper...that way, if you need to re-engineer it a little, you still have the original pattern intact as a reference. But offhand, I can't readily name another commercial pattern for fly-fronts, though I can think of at least one in Linda Baumgarten's Costume Close Up that could be rescaled and altered.

Lowland, like Highland, plaids were restricted to the size of the loom on which the cloth was woven. All cloth at that date would have been single width with about 26 inches being standard. The widest Highland piece I've sen was 36 inches. Wider cloth was formed by joining two lengths to give a double width plaid. Thus, 60 inches is a little on the excessive side, 54-56 inches would have been more common.