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Movies/Films etc on jacobite history? (Read 78221 times)
12/10/04 at 12:15:04

Henrik_B._Boegh   Offline
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Hello all my fellow jacobites!

Appart from Culloden by Watkins, do any of you know about any films/movies on the 45? It may be fact or fictional.
I've also seen one Battle of the Clans (or something, narrated by Brian Cox) at history channel and Great Battles: Culloden Moor 1746 at the Discovery channel.

Cheers,
Henrik
 

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Reply #1 - 12/10/04 at 17:52:02

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Hi Henric,

"Chasing the Deer (The tragedy of Culloden Moor)" is good.

can be bought at www.alberene.com

Rick
 
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Reply #2 - 12/10/04 at 22:38:21

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How about The White Cockade partially filmed at the Culloden reenactment in Milford, NY back in like '98 if my memory serves.  I can't even find my copy so I don't have anymore info right now...
 
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Reply #3 - 12/11/04 at 01:35:25

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"The White Cockade" was only produced for release in the UK on UK machines only. I went to buy it when I went to Culloden in OCtober at their museum, but the guy said that it wasn't going to be released in the US for at least another year.
Bummer........
Chad
 
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Reply #4 - 12/11/04 at 13:25:45

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well if we're talknig about the same film (by Mule & Johnny Films) that is bad news.  it means i'll have to buy the new release when it comes out.  found my old copy and for the first time noticed that the tape label has "Preview Copy" on it.  picked this one up probably five years ago in a little town near Rochester, NY named Fairport.  that was back in the last few years of VHS popularity.  hopefully we'll see this on DVD...
 
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Reply #5 - 12/13/04 at 17:51:37

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I think chad is thinking about another whitecockade.
the one that was Shot over here at Milford is hard to come by
but its still out there. the last place i saw it being sold was in Dunedin Florida by the folks at the Scottish banner.
Over all I liked it and the folks from Mule and Jonny were the nicest folks around. As to others

Chassing the deer....Great idea...but It really fell short for Me
(As did the Movie the Bruce done by the  same production Company as a matter of fact alot of the same cast is in the Bruce that is Chassing the deer)

Then there are the endless documentarys that were done about the period using stock  footage from chassing the deer
Which all of them have a Very large pro Hanoverian P.O.V.

And then there were the movies that have been lost in preproduction...there were supossed to be three movies about the 45 coming out over the next three years.
Two about Flora Mcdonald  One obaout Charles edward Stuart
With SKy Captian Him self playing ole "Charlie" and then there was the opus By Robert Carlye about 5 brothers who go fight for the prince and end up being sent to Northe america to fight ten years latter in the seven years war

All of these "picks" have fallen on their butts. but hey i still hold out hope

                                                                     Collin
 
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Reply #6 - 12/14/04 at 14:07:41

Chris Timm   Offline
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Collin is right about the movie "The White Cockade" by Mule and Johnny Productions.  It was filmed and produced in North America and is different from the one Chad is referrring too. I've seen that one in Scotland and its still only available in European format.  As for "our" White Cockade, I know that this summer The Old Guard (theoldguard.com) had at least one copy.  The owner is Greg Hanbuch, a friend of our events.  While I may be biased I thought it was well done and a fair representation of both sides.

Chasing The Deer is entertaining and not too bad overall, though it does have a Hanoverian bias.  Mind you I'd love to have their Cumberland at our events!

There's off course the famous BBC version of the Battle of Culloden done in B&W in the 60's but its pretty bad.

Other than that, most others I've seen are low budget documentaries. I too have heard the '45 related movies planned have been shelved for now. Perhaps we'll see something in the new year.

all the best,
Chris
 
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Reply #7 - 12/14/04 at 18:27:37

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Should add that in UK circles "Chasing the Deer" is known as "Chasing the Turkey"..a certain Author was tech. advisor & stills keep turning up in his books.....
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Reply #8 - 12/15/04 at 13:39:19

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Geeeeeeeeeee

I wonder whome you are speaking of lol
 
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Reply #9 - 12/15/04 at 13:48:50

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Chasing The Deer is entertaining and not too bad overall, though it does have a Hanoverian bias.  Mind you I'd love to have their Cumberland at our events!


That Cumberland did rock...

Altough please Mr Timm I beg you do the chessy French accent once for Me...
Just one line from the movie....Right before Culloden he States from horse back
"ohh how very Celtic" everytime i hear that it sends me into giggles...

Also I must introduce yall to chassing the deer the drinking game.
Everytime you see an extra/reanactor notice hes being filmed and attempting to
pretend he was staring right at the camera take a drink...
ever time C.E.S. says something in a horrid pythonesck french accent take a drink.
Everytime Brian blessed goes into a dietribe about his past...that a another cast memeber interuputs for no reason...take a drink
Evertime you see a ECW kit take a drink...well you get the point
 
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Reply #10 - 12/15/04 at 19:08:48

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well put!  Though I don't think I'd get too far through the game/movie!
 
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Reply #11 - 12/16/04 at 13:03:21

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Its ok Chris no one does lol
Just wait till  Braveheart the drinking game .......(its been know to send some people straight to A.A.)
 
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Reply #12 - 12/23/04 at 00:39:32

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Errol Flynn's "Master of Ballantre" is great entertainment in a true Flynn genre.
 
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Reply #13 - 02/08/05 at 12:50:30

Henrik_B._Boegh   Offline
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Do you know if "Master of Ballantre" is out on DVD?? I'm a great fan of Flynn, so...

Is it possible to get "Chasing the Deer"(or Turkey for that matter) on DVD in Europe?? I've done some searching but haven't found it yet...

Cheers,
Henrik
 

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Reply #14 - 06/11/05 at 16:32:47

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Quote:
Errol Flynn's "Master of Ballantre" is great entertainment in a true Flynn genre.


Lest we forget "Bonnie Prince Charlie" [1948] starring David Niven. I have this on vhs, & do not know if its available on dvd.

Its a pro-Jacobite overly romantic look at the '45 & the "romance" between the Prince & Flora MacDonald, but I enjoy watching it.

The rising of the standard & the battle scenes in "Master of Ballantre" were lifted from this film.

Another that touches upon the Jacobites (post '45) would be Disney's "Kidnapped".

And pre-Jacobite (the '15) would be "Rob Roy".  Wink
 

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